[dancer-users] Development of Dancer stalling? What to do?

Zahir Lalani ZahirLalani at oliver.agency
Mon Dec 21 18:22:40 EST 2020


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: dancer-users <dancer-users-bounces at lists.preshweb.co.uk> On
> Behalf Of Yanick Champoux
> Sent: 21 December 2020 17:50
> To: Perl Dancer users mailing list <dancer-users at lists.preshweb.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [dancer-users] Development of Dancer stalling? What to do?
>
> I am not actively working on Dancer these days, but I feel the need to raise
> my hand and just point out that
>
> 1. yes, it's been a heck of a crazy year. As far as I can say, anybody who
> managed to spend any meaningful period of time since March doing anything
> but rocking back and forth under a running shower are bloody heroes with
> more fortitude than I have.
>
> 2. every time the 'why the project isn't more active?' discussion comes
> around, I want to point out that all of the people working on Dancer (as far as
> I know) are doing it in their spare time. I know that often the question is not
> born out of malice, but for the people working on the project, it comes out as
> "oh, you're giving out stuff for free. But how come you're not giving more?"
>
> As I said, very often it's asked with the best intents. But it is soul-crushing. If I
> can recommend anything, in those scenarios I think it's more constructive to
>
> 1. explicitly thank the maintainers for the work they are already doing / have
> done in the past. You'd be surprised how often projects are met with long,
> looooooong stretches of absolute silence, only interspersed with occasionals
> "that's broken, fix it!".
>
> 2. is it a project your company rely on to make money? Then have them
> contribute.
>
> 3. thank the maintainers, for they are the little fairies making your lives
> easier.
>
> 4. if you are a developer who want to see something happens in the project,
> roll up your sleeves and pitch in. Sometimes it's... not possible because the
> bottleneck exists somewhere else. In those cases?
> :look right: ... :look left: :whisper: fork the project and go wild.
>
> 5. don't forget to thank the maintainers, if for no reason that there is a
> chance that the next time they roll their eyes to the sky and shout "why do I
> even bother?" to the heavens, this is the memory that will stop them from
> giving up and running to the desert to become hermits.
>
>
> *ahem* Soapbox speech ending. We can now resume our regular program.
>
> Oh yeah, I almost forgot:
>
> A big thanks to all the Dancer crew. I miss working on the project, and I miss
> you peeps. <3
>
>
> Seasonal joy,
> `/anick

Well as someone pointed out, Dancer is a lightweight core and is actually (for our purposes) very mature and stable. We have always found a way to do things, and find the light weight nature of Dancer is a benefit in terms of on boarding new team members and keeping the code clean and easy to understand.

So for my part anyway - thank you to all who have helped!

Z


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