I am a completely new user of Dancer2. so, this means that I have a nice fresh eye. just trying to tell you guys what one may run into as a new user. google gets me to https://metacpan.org/pod/Dancer2 . the installation of dancer2 was fairly painless. first thing I looked for on the left side was for a forum or mailing list. maybe under "Questions? Chat with Us." if not, I would give "contact info" its own header, instead of grouping contact info under the description. this would also be useful on the Dancer2::Tutorial page. I think any web page should also end with "Comments? Send to xxx". where xxx here is presumably this mailing list. YMMV. as I noted in a filed issue earlier, a google search for Dancer2 Tutorial still goes to the old Dancer2-0.01 link on cpan. it would be better to take this down. I am now working on v0.158. I put show_entries.tt and login.tt under views/ and main.tt under views/layouts. I maneuver to :3000, see a login message, and click on it. Then I see <h1>Dancr</h1> <div class=metanav> <a href="http://.../login">log in</a> </div> <h2>Login</h2> <% IF err %><p class=error><strong>Error:</strong> <% err %><% END %> <form action="<% login_url %>" method=post> <dl> <dt>Username: <dd><input type=text name=username> <dt>Password: <dd><input type=password name=password> <dd><input type=submit value=Login> </dl> </form> somehow, the template is not picking up. trying 'admin' and 'passwd' then gets to a 404 page. regards, /iaw ---- Ivo Welch (ivo.welch@gmail.com)