[dancer-users] Development of Dancer stalling? What to do?

Juan José 'Peco' San Martín jsanmartin at gmail.com
Mon Dec 21 15:27:11 EST 2020

Hello everyone.

Let's separate the core from the plugins.
For example, looking over I see that an update for this plugin
<https://metacpan.org/release/CROMEDOME/Dancer2-Plugin-Minion-0.3.3> was
released yesterday.

At the core level, it is true that there is some stagnation. In addition to
the pending PRs, the traffic on the list itself dropped considerably
It is also true that the project reached a certain maturity and the need
for new functionalities decreased (many are expected to come from the
plugins and not from the core).

Personally, I continue to use Dancer intensively and I am very satisfied.

I hope the Core developers will raise their hands if they feel they can't
spend enough time on the project. It's definitely not an easy year


El lun, 21 dic 2020 a las 11:43, Russell Jenkins (<
russell.jenkins at strategicdata.com.au>) escribió:

> While I have no immediate answers, everyone is aware that the last 9+
> months, and possibly the year ahead are somewhat unprecedented.
> Personally, in 2020 I've had a significant transition in working
> conditions plus supporting schooling children from home for a decent chunk
> of the year, yet I consider myself one of the lucky ones. As a core
> developer the amount of time I could contribute has been severely impacted.
> I've contributed where I can, checked in on, poked and prodded other core
> devs where I thought needed.
> While I'll gracelessly accept the (virtual) golden dancer award (thanks
> @cromedome!), I'll happy to acknowledge there is more to be done. But this
> is not the time to jump to conclusions that Dancer2 development is stalled,
> perl is dead, or whatever phrase is the flavor for today. It's always been
> said that issues and pull requests are always welcome. The core team will
> get to them as time allows. Recent PR's have been approved by two core devs
> ready for merge. If something has stalled, a gentle prod or bump can go a
> long way too.
> Advent driven development is also a thing, expect the reported numbers to
> change soon. I'd better go write up my advent article...
> All the best for the silly season.
>   Russell @veryrusty Jenkins.
> ps. The definite list of keywords is in Dancer2::Core::DSL.
> On 21/12/20 5:14 pm, Gabor Szabo wrote:
> Hi,
> as I am working on the Perl Dancer video course I need to look up lots of
> things in the documentation on https://metacpan.org/release/Dancer2 and
> many times I feel either that it is difficult to find what I was looking
> for
> For example looking for the full list of words in the DSL:
> I clicked on both links saying DSL, neither of them had the list, nor a
> link to the manual
> where I findall found it:
> https://metacpan.org/pod/distribution/Dancer2/lib/Dancer2/Manual.pod#DSL-KEYWORDS
> Another thing I was looking for is the list of types one can use out of
> the box to describe the routes. I could not find it.
> -------------------------------------
> It is frustrating, but this is open source, I can help improve it, right?
> I thought I'll open a ticket, maybe even send a pull-request.
> Looked at https://github.com/PerlDancer/Dancer2/
> and this made me even more frustrated. There are 110 open issues and 32
> open pull-request. That's 32 things some people have worked on and have not
> been integrated.
> (If you like, you can compare the numbers with
> Mojolicious https://github.com/mojolicious/mojo  47 3
> Flask https://github.com/pallets/flask 18 4
> You can also look at the commit history and you see there was hardly any
> activity recently.
> I keep recording the course, but I feel reluctant to open issues or work
> on pull-request because I don't want to waste my time on something where
> the chances of integration seem to be so low.
> -------------------------------------------
> Why has the development slowed down? How could it be fixed?
> Have the core developers (almost completely) lost interest?
> Do they lack the time?
> Could companies that use Dancer help financially?
> Could new people step up to become core developers?
> regards
>     Gabor
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