Hi David, thanks for the reply. On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 09:43:37 -0500 David Golden <xdg@xdg.me> wrote:

If it's working now, why bother?

well, my original motivation is to avoid having to keep both Dancer 1 and Dancer2 on my hard disk (with all their exclusive deps).

Also, I consider D2 to still be alpha quality.

Can you please elaborate on which problems/bugs/etc. you ran into with Dancer2 that make you say that? Regards, Shlomi Fish

David On Jan 9, 2014 8:37 AM, "Shlomi Fish" <shlomif@shlomifish.org> wrote:

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Hi all,

Is there a good reason why I should *not* convert https://metacpan.org/pod/App::Notifier::Service from Dancer 1 to Dancer2? It's a simple web app, meant to run synchronously, and I can debug it by using perl -d, and last time I tried doing s/Dancer/Dancer2/g everything worked nicely.

Is there a good enough reason to stay with Dancer 1?

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

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On 09 Jan 2014, at 20:58, David Golden <xdg@xdg.me> wrote:

On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Shlomi Fish <shlomif@shlomifish.org> wrote:

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Also, I consider D2 to still be alpha quality.

Can you please elaborate on which problems/bugs/etc. you ran into with Dancer2 that make you say that?

It's not stable. The API and internal architecture is still a work in progress. E.g. look at the 0.11 changes to redirect and forward. These *are* improvements (fixing the regressions that broke saving sessions in a hook), but the overall rate of change is still high enough that I deem Dancer2 "alpha" quality.

For what is worth, I share David's view. I have 5 apps using D2 in production, one of them for a workflow that is now responsible for a couple of M€ worth of revenue at work (it was an unexpected success :) ), and we hard-code to D2 8 + patches to make sure everything works. 9 was a bust, 10 had some issues with extensions we use, haven't tried 11 yet. If I cannot make upgrade of D2 between minor version safely, then it should be considered alpha. Mind you I still think D2 is our best solution (Kelp and Web::Machine being closed by depending on the needs of the project) and all new projects start with D2, but still on our patched D2 8. Bye,

On 14-01-10 05:02 PM, Иван Бессарабов wrote:

I'm a great fan ofhttp://semver.org/

Me too. :-)

Have you ever considered using SemVer for version numbering of Dancer (and/or Dancer2)?

Yes, and no... The thought ran in the back of my head, but I arrived late to the party, and the version pattern was already firmly established for Dancer 1. And while I think there is value in a semantic-based version, I didn't think that the added value, in this case, would be worth upsetting the status quo.

Maybe the usage of SemVer will simplify the work with changing API of the Dancer2?

It might be interesting to try. Of course, the cpan ecosystem does not really do anything with the versions beyond "is X greater than y", but it does provide more information and context to the changelogs. Hmm... maybe something to bring on the table the next time Dancer devs assemble in our secret base under the volcano. :-) Joy, `/anick