On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 4:53 AM, sukria <sukria@sukria.net> wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 11:38:39 -0500, P Kishor <punk.kish@gmail.com> wrote:
First, the perldancer.org domain was out for several days and emails to dancer-users mailing would bounce back ("rejected by recipient domain"). A conversation on IRC channel revealed that the DNS server was down, but nothing could be done about it until Sukrieh returned from a vacation. Would it be possible to not have such a single point of failure or blocking in the canonical, root domain of the web framework please? It gives the impression that the project has been abandoned.
Indeed, I was off for two weeks with no connection available around me (was on vacation in Spain) and the server where all my personal projects are hosted went down during this time. That's bad luck.
I'm aware that gives a negative impression over the all project and people involved with it (developers and users), and for that I sincerly apologize. But you have to remind that Dancer is a free software project, built upon goodwill and freetime, and with no income money at all. That means that we might not have the very best hosting architecture, 24/7 supervision and all what you could expect from a company.
Yes, of course, and I (and I am sure others) are very grateful to you for creating this really great framework and putting it out in open source. I guess, the key is, now that others are discovering how lovely Dancer can be, it might be worthwhile investigating how to make its hosting a bit more robust. One easy way would be to host it at a location where more than one person has control over the DNS or other aspects that might go down from time to time. That way, if one person is away for an extended period of time, and something goes wrong, there is at least one backup. If you are looking for reliable DNS, OpenDNS (or even Google's DNS) might be an option to consider. For mailing lists, Google Groups might be an option. If you are looking for a free or inexpensive web host, once again, any one of the shared hosts might be an option. Here in the US, I can get a shared host for less than $10 a month with complete shell access. In fact, I would contend that putting perldancer.org on a shared host might be instructive anyway to iron out the kinks of hosting Dancer-based web sites on a shared host. I believe github too allows hosting a web site. Anyway, the point is -- this is a great project, and it would be worth while making its mailing list and web site more robust. And, it would most likely be somewhere between free and very inexpensive. -- Puneet Kishor http://www.punkish.org Carbon Model http://carbonmodel.org Charter Member, Open Source Geospatial Foundation http://www.osgeo.org Science Commons Fellow, http://sciencecommons.org/about/whoweare/kishor Nelson Institute, UW-Madison http://www.nelson.wisc.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Assertions are politics; backing up assertions with evidence is science =======================================================================